The Club Soda podcast

Alcohol and relationships: from dating sober to forging friendships.

February 11, 2021 Club Soda Season 2 Episode 15
The Club Soda podcast
Alcohol and relationships: from dating sober to forging friendships.
Show Notes Transcript

Let the love flow
50 ml FLUÈRE Raspberry
25 ml quality apple juice
15 ml fresh lime juice
2 teaspoons strawberry jam
85 ml soda water

Shake everything except the soda water hard over ice. Strain into a wine glass, there should be a bit of foam, and add ice. Top with soda water, stir gently, and garnish with half a strawberry on the rim.


Finding confidence in dating sober and socialising with friends
Building relationships with people when changing our drinking can be tricky, whether that’s dating sober or thinking about how we socialise with our friends. It often becomes apparent that alcohol was playing a central role in a lot of our relationships, and that can be a daunting realisation. But worry not, because we’ve gathered some great tips from some of the wonderful folk in the sober community. Check out the full episode to find out more about finding confidence in your relationships when you’re changing your drinking.


Dating sober

Sex gets better the more you communicate. Sobriety definitely teaches us how to communicate and connect with our feelings. You learn more about yourself, you learn what you like, you learn about what turns you on. And sobriety gives you this confidence to stand up for yourself and demand pleasure because you deserve pleasure.

Tawny Lara – author, speaker, and podcaster

we go through so much of our lives thinking that what we do is normal. Drinking and dating, drinking and sex, drinking and relationships, we think that’s all normal. Start to question those things. Ask yourself if what you’re doing is really the way it has to be done. Try doing things sober with with your partner, or try dating sober. People sometimes think that they can’t do that, and that’s a huge limiting belief. Challenge those limiting beliefs and take baby steps, and those beliefs will start to slowly dissipate.

Chase Lee – addiction recovery coach

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Let the love flow

50 ml FLUÈRE Raspberry
25 ml quality apple juice
15 ml fresh lime juice
2 teaspoons strawberry jam
85 ml soda water

Shake everything except the soda water hard over ice. Strain into a wine glass, there should be a bit of foam, and add ice. Top with soda water, stir gently, and garnish with half a strawberry on the rim.


Finding confidence in dating sober and socialising with friends

Building relationships with people when changing our drinking can be tricky, whether that’s dating sober or thinking about how we socialise with our friends. It often becomes apparent that alcohol was playing a central role in a lot of our relationships, and that can be a daunting realisation. But worry not, because we’ve gathered some great tips from some of the wonderful folk in the sober community. Check out the full episode to find out more about finding confidence in your relationships when you’re changing your drinking.


Dating sober

Sex gets better the more you communicate. Sobriety definitely teaches us how to communicate and connect with our feelings. You learn more about yourself, you learn what you like, you learn about what turns you on. And sobriety gives you this confidence to stand up for yourself and demand pleasure because you deserve pleasure.

Tawny Lara – author, speaker, and podcaster

we go through so much of our lives thinking that what we do is normal. Drinking and dating, drinking and sex, drinking and relationships, we think that’s all normal. Start to question those things. Ask yourself if what you’re doing is really the way it has to be done. Try doing things sober with with your partner, or try dating sober. People sometimes think that they can’t do that, and that’s a huge limiting belief. Challenge those limiting beliefs and take baby steps, and those beliefs will start to slowly dissipate.

Chase Lee – addiction recovery coach

My top tips for dating sober are these. Tell your date beforehand that you don’t drink. This allows you to save time and not end up on a date with someone that leads a completely different lifestyle to yours. Use the opportunity of dating sober and get creative with your dates, especially when the world opens up again after the Covid pandemic. Instead of the pub, why not try table tennis, bowling or rock climbing. And listen to your gut. Now that you don’t have alcohol giving you the beer goggles or false excitement, you can really tune in to how you feel about someone and know that it’s real.

Emily Syphas – founder of Sober and Social


Friends and family

I recommend a traffic light system. When we start changing our drinking it can feel quite confusing. There are a lot of uncomfortable emotions around doing something which is not normative. It’s really important we tell the right people and get the right support from people in those early days. So we categorise people in terms of red, amber, and green in terms of what we share with whom. Get onboard with your green people. This can be a sober community, people who are going to reflect your choice back to you positively. Or maybe it’s your nearest and dearest that have your back and want you to do well. It’s very difficult to articulate it sometimes. You could say, ‘I need your love and support, I’m not expecting you to change’. Those are your green people. At the other end of the spectrum, you’ve got the red people. They’re the ones who ask if you’re an alcoholic, or tell you you’re boring, or try to get you to have a drink. People who are not supportive at all. Those are the people that you tell you’re on antibiotics if you don’t feel comfortable sharing your story. There might be a lot of flashing amber people that we’re not quite sure about and that’s absolutely fine. In the very early days, think of those as being in the red camp until you’re feeling more confident.

Kate Bailey – co founder of Love Sober.com

There was definitely a transitional period with my friends. We just didn’t really know how to interpret each other anymore. They were just used to me getting absolutely trollied and trying to make them stay out till 3am. I didn’t know how to interact with people without alcohol. I learned to do was to create new rituals with each friend. My friend Gemma and I really like spinning, so we would go to spin class, and then have brunch. My friend Helen likes the theatre. We go for dinner and then go see some immersive theatre. With other friends I’ll have tea and cake and play Monopoly or video games, or we play pool and have fish and chips at the seaside. There’s just so much out there that does not involve drinking. For my first year sober I just limped on and tried to do all the things that I had done before when I was drinking, I tried to not change anything. So I met people in pubs and watched them sink a bottle of wine. I realised that I didn’t find that that interesting. My new rituals with my friends tended to revolve around eating and moving my body. Those are things that I really enjoy.

Catherine Gray – author of ‘The Unexpected Joy of Being Sober’

My bit of advice for not putting alcohol at the centre of a relationship be that a friend, family member or your partner is to actually change the time of day you do your socialising. So most of my socialising, like 90% is now done in the daytime, late afternoon, maybe early evening and do not go to do anything in the night To be honest, because I’m so active now. But it becomes this advice comes in two parts. So change the time of day, but also change what you do. So for me what really works is activities when we’re side by side, so walking or going for a drive or baking or crazy golf. When you stop drinking or having a break, it can feel quite intense to be sitting across from someone making that much eye contact. Whereas I feel like when we’re doing an activity, I just feel more relaxed, I can enjoy myself more and usually open up more as well.

Lee – The Gay Sober